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Hey, most of us on this site like comic books, right? So it dawned on me recently that this forum seems a little naked without a forum for comic book fans to talk about what they'd like to see in a comic, or maybe what they'd like to DO in their comic book if/when they ever got on-the-ball like Bill and Craig.

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2 I don't have a name for mine yet... on Wed Jul 29, 2009 11:03 pm

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But the name would somehow involve the Tropic of Cancer. I've always wondered what superheroes would look like on the other side of the world. (The southern half.) But since all the world-known comic books come from first-world countries, we only get to see the superheroic southern hemisphere very briefly. (Either some fictitious African locale or a polar hideout in Antarctica.)

Basically, my comic book would involve the utter destruction of all life on Earth north of the 3ON parallel. Something that wouldn't necessarily take the entire globe down with it, but maybe an atmospheric shift or some biological/chemcal polutant that fissles-out gradually and never goes further south than the Tropic of Cancer. What would be the point of the comic?

Basically, it would ask, "What now?" Now that the majority of Earth's most advanced civilizations have been destroyed, how will we recoup our losses as a planet? Which sciences/technologies survive? Which newer, cutting-edge sciences/technologies never fully come out of development or fade away for lack of technicians... or are in any case lost for good?

What's the total cost of life? Are there any survivors? Can they or SHOULD they be allowed to rejoin the rest of the world? What about the land we have lost? Is it dead for good, or just for the next ten-twenty years? Will global habitat rehabilitation become a leading world-industry? ...Or is even speaking of such things childish and impractical?

And in a superhero comic, perhaps most importantly... "Who will defend the world from evil now?" Is there already a competent Mexican superhero contingent that we just don't know about because they always get overlooked, in place of other groups from countries North of the 30? Is it possible that there are enough rogue Australian super-talents to come together and defend the world, if ever such a superheroic vacuum did present itself? What villains do they face?

And what (if any) superheroic/villainous groups can be sewn together from the rags of all that we thought was lost?

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Yeah, the U.S., Canada and the U.K. have a virtual monopoly on the superhero gig. Historically, that's because comic books are an american invention and the three countries are english speaking countries. Most talent (writers and artists) come from the U.S., Canada and the U.K., so that also plays into it.

Also, it was discovered when Marvel first created Captain Britain exclusively for its U.K. readership, that other countries don't really get excited for "national heroes" (like Captain America). It wasn't until Captain Britain was put on the team Excalibur, an X-Men spinoff, and his twin sister joined the X-Men, that he became more popular.

It's all going to change in the coming years, believe me. More and more creators are popping up from countries all over the world now. As they get more of an active "voice" behind them, you will begin seeing more characters from other nationalities and such. Personally, I would like to see a muslim hero pop up. If handeled right, I think such a character could prove to be educational to readers. hmmmmmm.....

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That's encouraging for me to know... But wierd at the same time. If superheroes atart popping-up in other countries, I'll have the benefit of seeing how those countries would have them rendered. But then, there's also the risk of playing my heroes "too close" to other national heroes from different companies.

I'm not enough of an authority on comics or foreign countries to say this with a lot of force... but perhaps Marvel came to that assumption too quick? I mean, Captain Brittain... might as well be a genetically-enhanced James Bond, right? More powers, less gadgets, different threads... but Americans and Britts seem to love Bond already. Perhaps Marvel should have tried a superhero character for a country who doesn't already have a "mortally-gifted" national hero. (Which rules out Australia, with Crocodile Dundee...)

I mean... Maybe a South American superhero would do better. (Probably one from Brazil, as they are the largest economy on the continent!) Anyway, if Marvel wants to throw in the towel just because of Captain Brittain, I think they're missing out on some good business with say... France, Germany, Russia, etc. But as they say, "One man's loss is another man's gain." I think you're right. I think the more globally-connected we get, the more superheroes we will see from different countries.

Here's another thought: Perhaps a foreign country would be more willing to embrace a super hero that comes from a company BASED IN that country, and therefore knows how said superhero would act within his/her culture. Maybe Captain Brittain was just a little too... "American stereotype of Brittish hero." Or maybe certain countries are just predisposed to embracing national heroes while others are naturally not. England could be one of those "jaded" countries, where superheroes are concerned.

A Muslim hero would be educational. I'll give it that. But let's not have another comical national hero like the "Hebrew Hammer," lol!

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The Hebrew Hammer! I love it! Look for him to debut in Reliant Publishing comics soon! LOL

The important thing is that a character from....say Russia, would be best handeled by a creative staff (or at least a writer) from Russia, as opposed to an americans interpretation of Russia. That way, stereotypes can be avoided.

Marvel had british writer Alan Moore and british artist Alan Davis working on Captain Britian. The brits just didn't get excited about their own national hero is all (and Captain Britain has NOTHING in common with James Bond). Once Captain Britain got that X-Men rub, then fans liked him! I think that has more to do with the X-Mens level of popularity though. Spider-Man never seemed to have a problem fitting into other cultures across the globe...his stories are translated and sold all over!

At the end of the day, it all comes down to the creative staff behind the characters.

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How about a really cool chick comic book hero? It's rare. I always liked Storm though, she didn't seem overly girly. It would be nice to see a tough chick.. not too manly.. yet not overly girly.. I feel catwoman always had that too girly thing going on and nobody takes her seriously.

Maybe her name could be SPOOKS... and she would have a baby papoosed to her back.. the baby also has superpowers but nobody knows it yet.. not even Spooks... (ENTER DRAMATIC VIOLIN MUSIC HERE).

She could be mostly good but knows how to kick some butt if necessary. The baby has secret laserbeam eyes that help her when she is in trouble... I don't know let me think about this some more... haha.

Admit it goliathassasin probably likes this!!

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I dunno, Batman took Catwoman seriously. He revealed his identity to her and even let her hang out in the Bat-Cave! That's an extremely rare thing for a woman to do.

I have a female superhero in the works. Her storyline hasn't come around yet, you'll have to be patient. But, I'd love to hear what kind of female character women find interesting. I think this could be very educational! Not to mention, allowing me to tweak my own ideas...

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I envision a female character that is not overly girly/sexy. Someone who is simply confident and strong... but not giant and on steroids either. Maybe she can wear high heels but they are secretly spikes as a weapon... I like this. I'd have been way more into comics when I was younger if there were more cool women like that.

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Sweet link, Bill! Yeah, Batman did take her seriously. It was mainly the older versions of Catwoman that mobody took seriously. I took Michelle Pheifer seriously! And I took the animated TV series Catwoman seriously. I didn't take Halle Berry seiously, though!

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Hm, so... easy on the main ingredient that makes men like heroines? Lol.

Rogue was always cool and not too girly in my oppinion. The comic book Rogue, I mean. The movie Rogue is WAY girly.

The baby hero is a cool idea, but a "Stewie" complex would probably add more to the mix!

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Giggity! I love Stewie but Quagmire is better.. he is like Larry from three's company.

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A baby with a Quagmire complex... Hm, didn't they already do that in "Look Who's Talking?" (and sequels)

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GoliathAssassin wrote:A baby with a Quagmire complex... Hm, didn't they already do that in "Look Who's Talking?" (and sequels)

Never mention those movies here. You'll be busted down in rank back to citizen! Laughing

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You cant do that! What? Were they really THAT bad?

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GoliathAssassin wrote:You cant do that! What? Were they really THAT bad?

I'm the Admin...I can do anything! I can reset your post count back to 1 if I wanted to. Shocked Heck, I can ban IP addresses from accessing the forum.

And yes, they are that bad!

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Reset me to 1? But MEGATRON! I am the most feared warrior in your army! And I am also your very first Lieutenant! Surely you wish to commend me for my efforts. After all, I was... affraid AUTOBOTS!

Megatron: "Grab the energon cubes and retreat at once! Do NOT fight them!"

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Yes i'd also like to know what kind of female heroes girls like.
Personally i love Catwoman especially Miller's version from Year One and the punky Cook version. I love feisty girl heroes like that, Star Spangled Kid and Harley Quinn. I'm really into Golden Age Heroines like Phantom Lady, Mis Fury, and Lady Luck.
Other really cool female heroes are JSA's Crimson Avenger, and Power Girl.
What do people think of X-23?

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Well, since the forum seems to be getting pirated in this direction anyway... I'm actually working on two superheroines right now. (I'm working on a whole comic book cast of characters, but for some reason, my female characters are coming into focus more easily.)

One of them is Keaka Noe Okalani, Hawaiian for "Shadowy Mist of Heaven." In my comic book realm, everyone's being assigned to superheroic task forces and given codenames based on origin, so her reader-friendly alias will be Lulu. (from Honolulu) She's a victim of a childhood shark attack, and as a result, has two bionic arms. Her reflexory use of those bionic arms will inevitaby lead Lulu back to an old childhood love and some shocking discoveries about how many secret weapons she has at her disposal! But since she has no idea at first that her arms are actually weapons, Lulu's character will show quite a bladelust that never does take a backseat. She has three swords and six knives on her person at all times, all with individual names and uses. She reguards them like friends. She already has an enemy count of about six or seven, which isn't 100% clear yet, but close.

The other superhero chick is a 21-year-old Mexican wrecking-ball named Fabiola. In all fairness Fabiola is a pretty common Mexican name, but she's made herself notorious as "Fabiola de Jalisco." She's got a comedic list of superpowers inspired by the hot Mexican girl named Fabiola that I work with! Despite working in a grease-pit of a Mexican factory, Fabiola never gets dirty, she never sweats, and she always smells like roses. Always. She achieves this feat through odd glandular deficiencies and a repulsory field of gravity that surrounds her in times of great stress. Her gravity field allows her to run at extremely high speeds, perform jaw-dropping feats of acrobatics and punch things with unnatural force, without even breaking a nail! But since these superpowers rely on "Hulk-like" stress triggers, she's actually a very tiny, dainty, happy little girl throughout most of the day. Her own individal clique of nemesis is very small and campy, and her battles with them rely mostly on slapstick humor... but once the world changes and teams start being recruited, she shares a much more serious and vindictive cast of enemies with other heroes in the comic.

That is all for now. I'd like to write for a comic... Unfortunately, I have a TON of ideas, but absolutely zero drawing ability to bring them to detail.

Maybe there are other comic fans out there just like me... Maybe there are awesome artists out there who need help writing. That's basically why I created this forum. So please feel free to use this thread to post your cool drawings or ideas for comic books.

Maybe one day, this thread will spawn an extremely productive loop of PM discussions that turn into a new original series! Or maybe it will always be a fun place for comic geeks to share what they think would be cool ideas for a new comic book... Who knows what the future holds?

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GoliathAssassin wrote:

Maybe there are other comic fans out there just like me... Maybe there are awesome artists out there who need help writing. That's basically why I created this forum. So please feel free to use this thread to post your cool drawings or ideas for comic books.

uhhhh....what? Not to toot my own horn, but I created the forum here.

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What do you think about the trend toward more realism in super hero comics with books like NYX or Runaways. Just simple kids on the street who happen to have powers?

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I noticed that too, The Bill. Perhaps he who thinks he
created the forum also thinks he created the internet
(Oh that was someone else).

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My bad. Simple problem of semantics. I meant "this thread," not "this form."

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My apologies.

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GoliathAssassin wrote:My bad. Simple problem of semantics. I meant "this thread," not "this form."

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My apologies.

Ah! That would make sense...

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In spite of the fact that I rarely do...

Anybody ever try cheese on a snow cone? scratch

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